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I've been using a generic BT848 TV card in my old PC for capture and an ATI AIW in my home theatre pc for the past couple of years. So I picked up a WinTV 401 for my main pc last weekend because of people like poptones raving about how great it is for capture and home theatre use. It is great for capture but for Home Theatre use it sucks. I'd rather not use the WDM drivers because I want Vdub to work without problems. (I tried the sourceforge and Hauppauge WDM drivers but neither works as well as the VFW drivers for Virtual Dub.) However you have to use the WDM drivers if you want to run the latest Hauppauge WinTV program. Hauppauges old VFW compatible WinTV program won't run full screen and doesn't deinterlace. So I tried Dscaler for full screen deinterlaced TV but it doesn't support stereo audio with the WinTV and US cable TV.
Maybe I missed an option in Dscaler (I don't think so because others have posted the same problem in avsforum.com), but it seems like the WinTV sucks for home theatre use unless you install the WDM drivers and only use Hauppauge's weak WinTV program. I was using Hauggpauges WinTV software for a few hours before trying DScaler.
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The sound was notibly worse in Dscaler. A few minutes of MTV while switching between WinTV and DScaler confirmed that Dscaler is running in mono. When I first ran Dscaler with sound set to stereo the sound was faint and very noisy like an untuned radio station. The sound is only clear when set to 'Mono' or 'Speech Channel 1' under the Hardware menu. I thought I had a setting wrong in Dscaler but I found a post in avsforum that discussed the same problem.
Dunno exactly how you're doing it, but I use the MSP chip to get sound and route it through the card's line out. I select MSP/Radio from Settings-Audio, then under Hardware-MSP I have 'TV terrestrial FM-mono + FM-stereo' and 'Stereo' checked.
I know it's possible in theory to route the audio digitally over the PCI bus, but I admit I don't even know how since this way has always worked; the internal method sounds like it adds another point of failure for Hauppauge's drivers, not something I'd want to risk given their history of driver development (the BT878 VfW capture driver is almost a fluke by comparison with, say, their efforts with the WinTV-PVR). So I take it there pretty much is NO bombproof solution for those of us looking to get into capping and hometheater? I want a card that can do great captures and one that can do all of the other stuff later on that all the home theater guys use them for besides capturing. Is there such a beast around thats solid and affordable and works with everything?
About stereo and TV, you never hear it? Somethings wrong there. I hear it all the time.
So if I listen to poptones then any ATI card is out of the question (I'm not to into them myself either though) and if I listen to this then the card Pop recommends is out, whats left? I want something that can do everything I ask of it.
K this should be an easy one, do I want to try to buy something with a vid in and out or just get a vid card with a TV out and buy a capture card to put along side it? I'm seeing Geforce 2 tis and 3 ti200s with TV IN and OUT and they are looking mighty tempting. Quote: I select MSP/Radio from Settings-Audio, then under Hardware-MSP I have 'TV terrestrial FM-mono + FM-stereo' and 'Stereo' checked. I have the same settings. The problem is that if I have 'Stereo' checked then the sound is faint and staticy (is that a real word?
) I have to set the sound to 'Channel 1' or 'mono' for the sound to be normal. Its like Dscaler isn't tuning into my cable stereo signal correctly. Hauppauges website mentions that Dscaler doesn't fully work with their tuner. Others on avsforum have had the exact same problem. Is you WinTV plugged into cable TV or broadcast? Quote: Originally posted by Sp@nky: So if I listen to poptones then any ATI card is out of the question (I'm not to into them myself either though) and if I listen to this then the card Pop recommends is out, whats left?
I want something that can do everything I ask of it. K this should be an easy one, do I want to try to buy something with a vid in and out or just get a vid card with a TV out and buy a capture card to put along side it? If you just get a VIVO card, then you will need to use a VCR or cable box to actually provide the video signal. It does not function as a TV tuner. Avoid ATI cards like the plague. The drivers conflict with the ones for the 8500, forcing the use of old, or hacked drivers to use the TV card correctly. On top of that, ATI's scheduler no longer works and crashes the TV program when I atttempt to run it.
Quote: So I take it there pretty much is NO bombproof solution for those of us looking to get into capping and hometheater? I want a card that can do great captures and one that can do all of the other stuff later on that all the home theater guys use them for besides capturing. Is there such a beast around thats solid and affordable and works with everything? Don't use the onboard tuner (or don't get a card with one) and use an external tuner like a VCR. Problem solved.
Quote: So if I listen to poptones then any ATI card is out of the question (I'm not to into them myself either though) and if I listen to this then the card Pop recommends is out, whats left? ATI's TV cards still have crappy drivers compared to the Hauppauge VfWs. Their video cards, OTOH, are good if you're willing to play system roulette. Given all of the people using them now, including Avery, I'd say they work for most people.
No Dscaler though. Yes, I'm tuning cable. I haven't heard of this problem with DScaler - kind of hard to believe it wouldn't be compatible with the single most popular tuner card. You're using an external cable running into your soundcard's line-in, right? As someone said, if it really is an irreconcilable bug, the solution is to use an external tuner like a VCR or cable box (your cable company might even give you one free, not quite sure how it works). You lose the ability to control the channel from scripts, though.
Quote: ATI's TV cards still have crappy drivers compared to the Hauppauge VfWs. ATI's old VFW drivers worked very well for me. The only problem is that just like with Hauppauge, to use ATI's latest TV software requires installing the WDM drivers which causes Vdub problems. I was never able to get the VFW wrapper to work with my AIW WDM drivers. I could get good captures with the ATI's old VFW drivers (640x480x29.97fps).
So I have an AIW that works great for TV (stereo sound, pause live tv, quick captures to mpg) and a Hauppauge with VFW drivers that gives me great captures (640x480x29.97fps). Honestly stereo/mono means little to me because the local stations still haven't caught up to the eighties yet. But those getting poor sound quality are probably using the MSP/Radio input. That'll give you nasty sound through the card.
Settings: hardwareMSP/RadioTV Terrestrial FM-Mono + FM stereo hardwareMSP/RadioAutomatic Stereo Adjustment SettingsAudio InputTuner The difference in audio quality is pretty damn remarkable (at least with my cards). It may not be stereo unless you're using the tv2000 kludge, but the quality is much better.
When you first start you'll get a blast of noise until the computer switches to mono. But it does work (at least for me), and it works way better than the MSP input. I have everything set up to receive stereo, but I'd have to cap something and compare the channels to see if the signal I'm getting is actually stereo. Honestly, I can't think of anything I watch that would have any significant L/R separation: DScaler on my box is basically for college hoops, A&E's 3am reruns of Law and Order, and my roommate's old VHS collection.
Everything else (as little as that means; when you're busy accumulating 10k posts there ain't much time for the boob tube ) is capped and/or downloaded. I remember when I first tried dTV, and again when poptones mentioned something about passing audio over the PCI bus, I tried to use the Tuner input directly instead of the MSP hack with the loopback cable. Heck, tried again just now under each of the 3 hardware settings I mentioned before (standard BT, standard w/o MSP, new Hauppauge) - nada.
I think on one of my previous tries I at least got noise, but ATM it's equivalent to Audio Input-Disabled. 1) Do you want to run Win2K/XP?
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2) Do you want to use VirtualDub for capture? 3) Do you want to use Dscaler for TV Viewing? 4) Do you need or want a built-in tuner? Quote: I don't care about the tuner part cause I use a Sat for my main video source, even if it had a tuner it would be useless to me.
Ok, you've answered the fourth question, now you have to answer the other three. Quote: Is their a wintv dealy without the tuner parts for a bit less money? Quote: And I want everything I cap to be in stereo sound, is this an impossible task? The problems people are having with stereo sound is with Dscaler, an app that addresses the hardware directly, and thus has some issues with sound on certain tuners. For regular capping this should never be a problem. Quote: I decided the problem was virtualdub's capture, not the fact that my tuner card supports up-to-date APIs. I shelled out a few bucks for iuvcr so I never had to think about VFW again.
YMMV Did they fix the audio sync problems? That was pretty much what was keeping it from being another VirtualDub. 1) Right now I'm running win98se, so thats what it will be for now but when I make a dedicated AV box (probly not for at least a couple months) I'll run what ever the best OS is for that task. Seems the one thats the most compatible with all this hardware and software.
2) I'm not sure if I want to use Vdub, I would guess so since it seems to be the CAP software of choice? 3) I'm again not too sure, I havn't used it I just hear people recommending it all the time so again I would think yes. What do people use it for that Vdub can't do? Thanks for the help guys, I'm close to buying stuff so I want to be sure I buy the right stuff. Of course the first things I want to buy is the vid in and out cards. Quote: Like the Marvel G450 eTV?
You really don't want that if you play any modern games. Quote: Or the older cards with the rainbow runner daughter cards? You really don't want those. Quote: 1) Right now I'm running win98se, so thats what it will be for now but when I make a dedicated AV box (probly not for at least a couple months) I'll run what ever the best OS is for that task. Seems the one thats the most compatible with all this hardware and software. 2) I'm not sure if I want to use Vdub, I would guess so since it seems to be the CAP software of choice? 3) I'm again not too sure, I havn't used it I just hear people recommending it all the time so again I would think yes.
What do people use it for that Vdub can't do? Dscaler is a viewing program, Vdub is a capping program. They're generally mutually exclusive. Dscaler is free and with a fast processor will give you absolutely the best picture out of any TV viewing software. That said, you haven't answered any of the questions, you've just said that you're not sure. With that, all I can reccomend is that you spend more and experiment with your setup. Get a Hauppauge WinTV card.
And get an ATI Radeon AIW card with remote. Get a serial remote and try out Girder too. Avicii true free download mp3. Try out all the capture software available.
Try out both Win9x and the Win2K/XP of your choice. K well I've looked around even more I don't plan on watching any TV on my monitor so until I get a progressive scan display device I don't really see any reason to use dscaler right? And about playing games, this card will be for the AV computer exclusively so 3d performance doesn't really matter. The only games will probly be some emulated nes and super nes games and such. I'm seeing the matrox g450 eTV for less then half retail on ebay so thats why I asked.
Also whats so horrible about the older cards with the rainbow runner add on? From the info they post about it, it sounds great and they are super cheap. To answer your questions a little better, I'll say yes I want to use both vdub and dscaler at some point in time. And about the OS, like I said what ever the best one for the task is, is the one that I will use. Thanks for all the help. Quote: Originally posted by zathras2: QUOTEI decided the problem was virtualdub's capture, not the fact that my tuner card supports up-to-date APIs.
I shelled out a few bucks for iuvcr so I never had to think about VFW again. YMMV Did they fix the audio sync problems? That was pretty much what was keeping it from being another VirtualDub./QUOTE I've heard some people have sync problems but never experienced it myself. I have capped for hours without losing sync using iuvcr. You might want to check it out again, the 4.xx version added some interesting new features and was just updated.